Friday, July 15, 2005

Just Gettin' 'Em Ready for the Fiery Pits of Hell

As the FBI continues their investigation into the alleged "human rights violations" at Guantánamo Bay, I sat back and reflected on the below article in the NY's amazing how these prisoners are given such concern and empathy from our government, and how the NY Times is so quick to paint such a pitiful picture of these wretched souls...

"General Schmidt told the committee that his investigation could not substantiate some of the F.B.I. accusations. His report said that some of the practices that evoked criticism among the F.B.I. agents were approved interrogation techniques, like stripping detainees, forcing one to wear women's lingerie and wiping red ink on a detainee and telling him it was menstrual blood."

-If you ask me, I think the interrogators are doing them a favor. Imagine if they went out of this world feeling comfortable, they would have a serious jar into reality when they wake up in the fiery pits of hell. At least they are getting conditioned to where they're going next.

"The report also said investigators could not corroborate an incident recounted by an F.B.I. agent who said she saw a detainee shackled to the floor for hours, soiling himself and pulling out his hair. "

-I wonder how people on the planes that crashed into the WTC or the Pentagon felt right before they met their hellaciously crispy-fried demise...Seems like a small price to pay for all the people who lost someone that day.... All that concentrated pain from the millions of people who were directly affected by the terrorist attacks is now manifesting itself in a handful of scumbag terrorists and I shan't shed a single tear.

"In addition, one of the high-value detainees, Mohamed al-Kahtani, whom the military has said confessed that he was meant to be the 20th hijacker in the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11, 2001, was led around on a leash and forced "to perform a series of dog tricks." The leashing of a detainee to humiliate him was another practice that became notorious after it was recorded in a photograph of abuses at Abu Ghraib."

-Well, maybe he'll think twice next time. Being a prisoner of war is not meant to be a friggin' vacation people. Our men and women have suffered horrendous torture and executions at the hands of our enemies, both now and in the past. This fool was all about participating in a mass-execution of innocent civilians, he is not a pious Bedouin searching for food in the desert. When will the Times stop romanticizing these jerks?

"General Schmidt had concluded that the special techniques used on Mr. Kahtani were not by themselves a problem. In addition to being segregated from other prisoners for nearly six months and interrogated for up to 20 hours a day, Mr. Kahtani was made to stand naked in front of female soldiers, forced to wear lingerie, forced to dance with a male interrogator and had his copy of a Koran squatted on by an interrogator."

-Sounds to me like the exact same thing is happening next door on the streets of Havana to 12 year old kids who sell themselves trying to get a buck to feed their families, but no one is talking about that, are they? No, we care about some low-life murderers more than we do the children of the world...absolutely priceless!

"General Schmidt had recommended that Maj. Gen. Geoffrey Miller, the commander of the Guantánamo prison in 2002 and 2003, be reprimanded for failing to exercise proper supervision over the Kahtani interrogation. But Gen. Bantz J. Craddock, the commander of the United States Southern Command, overruled that recommendation. "

-Who's this General Craddock fellow? I'd like to shake his hand, give him a booty bump... somethin'! Glad to see someone in the upper ranks of the military isn't a paper-pushin' tool.

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NYgirl said...

Fabulous fisking. You're right, if only the NYT were more concerned about children in Havana, than these terrorists in waiting.

Tremenda Trigueña said...

They never will be as long as they can fantasize about saving poor little brown terrorists from the throngs of the U.S. military and make Bush look like a tyrant when all he has done is give them his middle finger in their face.

Robert said...

Excellent job TT. Couldn't have said it better myself.

Believe me, the humiliation the prisoners are going through is NOTHING compared to the pain and agony caused by the terrorists of 9/11.

Aaron Hanscom said...

A booty bump! I like it.

Excellent post. I couldn't agree with you more.

Tremenda Trigueña said...

How about we send Fidel an anonymous memo telling him the terrorists are circulating anticastrista propaganda and let them free on the streets of Havana?

leftside said...

(Tremelda, I tried responding you your post on BabaluBlog, but the freedom lovers over there deleted it...)

Tremelda, you seem to have an open and curious mind. May I suggest a
couple other facts and books you may consider?

The UN has ranked Cuba #2 in the world in terms it's "human development index" (health, education, housing, etc.) compared to GDP. Among other things, Cuba beats the US in number of children dying before age 5...

There is no homelessness in Cuba. 80% of Cubans own their own home,
compared to 55% here. UN tests have shown that Cuba's children are, by far, the best educated in Latin America/Carribean. The lowest half of Cuban students scored higher than the upper half of students in the next closest
countries. Cubans have the greatest access to participate in arts, culture and sports in the region.

Despite all the crap you hear about no freedom of expresssion in Cuba, Amnesty International has identified just 50 to 100 political prisoners in Cuba. Most were caught after lengthy investigations found them having
recieved money, resources or direction from the US Government - a Government at war with Cuba for 45 years. Two months ago over 100 so-called dissidents representing most of the members of the nationwide opposition met without
hassle in Havana for a much publicized 2-day summit. Weeks prior more than 1.2 million marched with Fidel through the streets in solidarity with the
Revolution. No books are banned, no one has ever been arrested for religion or thought.

Everyday Cubans have more ability to affect change in their neighborhood and workplace that we Americans could ever dream of. Mass participation is a cornerstone of Cuba. Take the time to compare their recent legislative
elections to ours (no parties, no money, mass participation and 90 percent voting).

Only have time to list one book. It would have the be "In the Fist of the Revolution" by (Puerto rican) Jose Yglesias, 1969. Its written from the vantage point of the changes the Revolution brought to a small rural town.

And if you are worried about 12 year olds selling themselves, I trust you need to look no further than your own town or city. No one is at risk of hunger or homelessness in Havana. Prostitution in Cuba is far lower than it was pre-Castro, nowhere near what it is here and of a totally different sort (much more consensual and relationship-driven) Don't be misled.

Tremenda Trigueña said...

Leftside, I know that Cuban children are extremely well-educated, I used to teach Cuban refugees in a bilingual alternative school. I have also worked with children in the juvenile justice system, so I know of the ills of child prostitution in the U.S. and they weren't doing it because the government denied them extra ration cards this month. However, I do not and will not accept that hundreds of thousands of people would risk their lives every year floating on a popsicle stick in shark-infested waters if Cuba was such a great place to live. The "crap" I have heard about no freedom of expression has not primarily been from children of Cuban exiles, it has been from Cubans who have come to the U.S. in the past 10 years. They are much more apathetic to the Castro government than most Miami Cubans, but they are not here because they wanted to do an ethnographic study on the citizens of the United States. I appreciate your analysis and will not delete your comments..but know that I have never supported Castro and never will. I have a friend who went on the "Women and Cuba" tour or whatever it is, and we have had umpteen arguments regarding her brainwashing in Cuba. I don't think every single day in Cuba is hell on earth, but I also will not buy the European/Canadian tourist version of Cuba, either. My friend, who comes from a Communist family in Cuba told me "I can't stand these American students who come back from Cuba talking about Viva Fidel...because they can be as idealistic as they want, but if they get tired of living in Cuba all they have to do is make a call to Mami and Papi to send them a ticket" There is no panacea, America is not a perfect place, but I can't understand why privileged Americans think they have any idea what it's like to live in a communist dictatorship.

Songuacassal said...

Trig, I was going to smack Leftside a good one, but I can see that you got yourself under control here! ¡ÑO QUE TREMENDA GUEBSAE -HAY FOQUIN LOV ET CHICA!

Bueno, okay, I do have to say this to Leftside:

In a communist state where fidel owns EVERYTHING Leftside claims that 80% of Cubans own their own home...

My response is: